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avatarBoen, Jan -- on Mar. 17 2006
Having the possibility to create user groups would help with mailing lists and granting editor rights.
Would it be possible to create "group" feature so that users can be grouped together and so that these user groups can be used for assigning editor rights and for send selective news letters to a group of users?
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
Associate, 6796 posts

on Mar. 18 2006


Jan, can you kindly be more specific and describe your requirements please?

From a theoritical and practical standpoint, a group is a tool aiming to describe some relationship between some users and some resources. In YACS, such relationship is readily implemented by direct links from members to sections.

What do you need more?
Vinc
from Bruxelles
114 posts

on Apr. 15 2006


Here's maybe wath he means.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupware

And here's maybe your answer.

But I think this is quite short. You can't answer to people that they only have to understand what surrounds the informatical concept of a group in yacs.

You cannot manage a project with YACS at this time with features like:

  • process design via hirarchical tasks design
  • timeline for tasks wich also means calendar (prefer vcalendar ) ,
  • tasks assignment to people/groups/members,
  • check tasks are accomplished and evaluated in order to continue process
  • newsgroup (wich means easy member' mail selection or multi Vcard exportation and Yacs page exportation -cache result e.g.- ) ,
  • built-in chat -except skype and MSN-,  
  • easy to navigate structured discussion topics.
  • easy way to selectively publish files to one or another member
  • easily upload different files / upload zip files
  • send zip files by mail
  • easily navigate within uploaded files and connect to related articles/section/categories.
  • Search within PDF, DOC, XLS, MS OFFICE and OPEN OFFICE FILES, see jakarta lucene, Index server and ifilters,
  • ...
  • A little bit of dreams

 

 

Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
Associate, 6796 posts

inspired from vinc on Apr. 15 2006


Vinc: This reminds me past wars we had in IT department, back in the 80's, about Lotus Notes against the legacy mainframe, etc.

At that time the buzzword groupware had been coined to put the focus on small-sized and empowered group of people. This trend is still alive, but web technologies are going far beyond that.

What about blogging? Social networking? Syndication?

The strength of YACS is in the combination of all these, to achieve a powerful collaborative platform based on web technologies.

Groupware was about linking people in definitive groups. In corporations, if you wanted to be someone, you had to ask some system admin to be part of key groups.

The challenge for modern corporations may have shifted from places of power to the efficient production of content, out of disbanded resources.

Therefore YACS, like modern web-based systems, is more focused on job outcome (web spaces instead of groups) and on ad hoc organisation (the tribal way to structure teams).

Of course, we still have to improve on many things, and looking at groupware solutions is still a valid approach. Many of your suggestions are already available. Some are missing. Others won't be part of YACS anyway.

For example, YACS is weak on task and resource management, but it supports to-do lists (through actions assigned to individuals) and presence information (Skype, Y!, etc.)

To actually manage a project, you may have to consider alternate open source initiative such as GanttProject.

Thank you so much for your interest in YACS.
Treblesix
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inspired from Bernard on Apr. 15 2006


Bernard: Having explored and evaluated numerous CMS and related software/scripts this year, I would say that YACS is essentially unique in its philosophy, capabilities, direction and administration. The only similar(ish) ones are Drupal, Drupal clones and SPIPS.

From the Admin side looking out, I would have to say that members/groups access and permissions could be advantageously more granulated.

However, from the outside looking in ... as a visitor or member ... YACS really shines as a community or social network where people can do all kinds of stuff without being an uber-geek.

The YACS fluidity of form is in distinct contrast to rigid corporate-style management and usage. It would be a very sad day if YACS ever evolved into say phpProjekt or DigitalWorkspace.

In my view YACS strengths far outweigh the present shortcomings in template, member and language management. These three can be resolved without changing the nature of YACS in the least.

In fact, despite installing all 50Mb of DigitalWorkspace yesterday ... I still far prefer YACS for the overall front and backend feel for admin and users without all the large corporate structured baggage.

The fact is simple really, people are much happier when they are not confined within little boxes whether at work, at play or even within templates.

YACS is when viewed from the correct perspective.
Jan B
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on Apr. 15 2006


All,

Thanks for the bunch of explanations and such but my initial request was for something much more simpler.
I'm basically lazy and want to avoid to do things over and over and hence my request for some user groups feature.
You can compare this to the groups featuer you have when administering Users and Groups in Windows or Linux.
There are 2 things I want to do regularly: 1- send a newsletter to a selective group of people that do not fit the standard options.
Why? We run a single YACS site that has new postings that are only relevant to a sub section of it's members.
2- Assign editor rights to a pre-defined set of users that I would like to find back in groups. See the interest group of above topic.

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