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avatarW, Gareth -- on Mar. 15 2006
New Here, Go Easy...
Wow. It took me ages to find this site, and it appears to do everything I want. I'm going to set up my own copy on my own PC to play with (EasyPHP) but before I do can anyone answer some questions?
I've been asked to build a website for a large UK animal/pet society (can't give more details yet) and have the following requirements.

1) Multi Category Article/News management. For example South East Dog Show Results would need to go into South East Club, Show Results, and Dog News.

2) Is it possible to create user groups (for each local section, e.g. South East) so that pages relevant/specific to that club can only be viewed by members of that group?

3) How can membership of these groups be controlled, and is it possible to extend this to forums (e.g. each club has their own forum that only their members can participate in)

4) Is it possible to assign different moderators to each club section (and forum board) to control their own membership?

5) Is there a possibility to upload images directly in the main editor - are there any other WYSIWYG editors available (FCK would be preferred)

6) Can you create an image gallery for each club so that only the clubs can post there? Can you create an image gallery for each user that only they can publish in?

7) Can Each club have a private forum?

8) Is there any form of Wiki functionality?

I realise this is a big ask, but I'd be grateful for any information you can provide (or even better, links to sites running with this functionality).

Many Thanks, Gareth
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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on Mar. 15 2006


" 1) Multi Category Article/News management. For example South East Dog Show Results would need to go into South East Club, Show Results, and Dog News. "


No problem. With YACS articles are put in sections, and this has to be hierarchical. Morover, one article may be in only one section.

To classify your pages you will use categories, which are a simple way to link any set of pages.

In your example you could create categories South East Club, Show Results and Dog News, and assign these to your page.
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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on Mar. 15 2006


" 2) Is it possible to create user groups (for each local section, e.g. South East) so that pages relevant/specific to that club can only be viewed by members of that group? "


Yes, you have to assign the section to all group members. This is a straightforward process :
  • change South East section attributes to make it invisible, except to associates and members
  • visit user profiles of group members, and assign the section South East to each of them.


The result is a closed collaborative web space for a group of persons.
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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on Mar. 15 2006


" 3) How can membership of these groups be controlled, and is it possible to extend this to forums (e.g. each club has their own forum that only their members can participate in) "


Yes, based on previous comment, just add a sub-section to act as a discussion board, and it will inherit access rules for the group.

For example, create a sub-section to South East, and configure it as a yabb discussion board. Only group members will be able to post and read there.
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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on Mar. 15 2006


" 4) Is it possible to assign different moderators to each club section (and forum board) to control their own membership? "


At the moment only associates can assign sections to members. This task cannot be delegated to section editors --yet.
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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on Mar. 15 2006


" 5) Is there a possibility to upload images directly in the main editor - are there any other WYSIWYG editors available (FCK would be preferred) "


At the moment images are uploaded separately, but with some practice you may find this quite handy after all.

For the WYSIWYG editor, one YACS user has already contributed with the FCKEditor, and this could be part of next version, based on integration finalization.
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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on Mar. 15 2006


" 6) Can you create an image gallery for each club so that only the clubs can post there? Can you create an image gallery for each user that only they can publish in? "


With YACS every article can host a bunch of images. tehrefore, with the South East setting described previously, just let members post images either in new articles, or add photos to pages written by others.

Also YACS allows for personal sections, that are sections with one single editor. Useful to support the publication of personal artwork.
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
Associate, 6696 posts

on Mar. 15 2006


" 8) Is there any form of Wiki functionality? "


Yes, if you are talking of the capability to accept anonymous posts, and of content versioning. YACS still lacks the full support of WiKi syntax, but has a rich set of simple and powerful rendering codes. Also, YACS has no WikiNames, but it supports nick names for sections, articles, etc.
Fernand
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from Paris
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on Mar. 15 2006


Gareth_w :
" I've been asked to build a website for a large UK animal/pet society "
May I tell you that I feel enthusiastic about your plan.

Bernard: Thank you so much for such clear answers which contain (with Gareth's questions) so many ideas on which to base a faq in french.
We constitute only one community, multilingual, aren't we.
Gareth_w
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on Mar. 16 2006


Thanks for the comprehensive answers guys. I've done a lot of work in Joomla and XOOPS and creating this "My Home Page", "My PIctures", "My Albums" etc is next to impossible.

Finding this site was a breath of fresh air (Why are you so well hidden?). This system is so intuitive to use that I think the users will really take to it, which is the main thing to get the community involved.

One last question regarding group memberships / visibility - is it possible to have a group that only members (e.g. SouthEast) can post to, yet all can see? Can you please tell me how I get to the section where I can set this up?

I have this system running at home under EasyPHP and am beginning to really get to grips with this.

The organisation in question is having it's AGM on Sunday and I will know if a decision has been made at that point. If chosen, I will definitely take this on to a Beta test with real users.

Thanks again, Gareth.

P.S. Bernard - I love your avatar image
Bernard
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from nearby-an-airport
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inspired from gareth_w on Mar. 16 2006


" is it possible to have a group that only members (e.g. SouthEast) can post to, yet all can see? "


this can be achieved with following settings:
  • make the section public
  • lock it to prevent posting, except from associates and editors
  • assign group members to the section to make them editors of the section
Fernand
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from Paris
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inspired from Bernard on Mar. 17 2006


Gareth_w : Where did you discover YACS' "hidden" address ? paranoid
Gareth_w
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on Mar. 17 2006


I discovered YACS from www.opensourcecms.com.

I have heard about XOOPS from work and there are a lot of sites using Mambo/Joomla with good publicity, but someone put me onto opensourcecms and I just went through everything. Unfortunately, being Y... I almost got bored before I reached the bottom of the list.

You are listed under portals, but there is so much more here than that - this system is a whole different paradigm in the entire way it works, based solely around the user, that I don't think anyone knows how to pigeon hole this.
Fernand
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from Paris
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on Mar. 19 2006


Gareth_w :
" You are listed under portals, but there is so much more here than that - this system is a whole different paradigm in the entire way it works, based solely around the user, that I don't think anyone knows how to pigeon hole this. "


You indicate accurately why YACS is so different, and rather difficult to pigeonhole. Thank you !
One of the reasons is that Bernard writes almost all of YACS as an "eXtreme programmer" leaning carefully upon the requests of clients and users, through his daily experience as a consultant.

We hope that the meeting of today was smiling to you , and by the way, to YACS.
Gareth_w
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inspired from fernand on Mar. 20 2006


Fernand:

Thanks. It went well - the webiste this is for will target 30,000 possible subscribers (though I expect around 300).

I have 14 days to prepare 3 systems for a public beta - I'll be sure and let you know how it goes (probably mostly by asking for help!!!)
Fernand
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inspired from gareth_w on Mar. 20 2006


Gareth_w : Its all right. We'll be ready to answer to you in due time. That is to say as quickly as possible paranoid .
Fernand
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inspired from fernand on Apr. 10 2006


Well Gareth_w, even if not realized with YACS, what about your beautiful plan ?
Gareth_w
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inspired from Fernand on Apr. 10 2006


Thanks for remembering me!

The " Beautiful Plan" has gone through politics and been hacked down a little from what it was. Much of the integration has now gone as it is not needed, some for good reasons, others for not.

Current plan of implementation is a slick Joomla site to present the organisation's content (and joomla is probably the best their is at the moment for this) coupled to a totally different back end for the community. Currently, a different three systems are under consideration: YACS, SMF/Coppermine and phpBB/Coppermine, though I understand phpBB has security issues that I have not fully delved into.

The new plan is to get the front end site rolled out by the end of May, and developing the theme graphics is taking most of my time at the moment. Once rolled out, I will revisit the community side of things then. I do appreciate all your help and will keep you appraised of how things develop.

Thanks again, Gareth
Bernard
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inspired from gareth_w on Apr. 10 2006


Gareth_w: Have you checked the new YACS 6.3.1 version, with a simplified approach to templates?

Most of the PHP code has been moved to a standard skins/page.php class, meaning that skin templates are almost pure XHTML/CSS now.

Thank you for your interest in YACS, and good luck for your sites
Gareth_w
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inspired from Bernard on Apr. 10 2006


I'll probably get a chance Wednesday to download the new version. The presence of the FCK editor may swing things a little.

Thanks for all your interest and feedback, Gareth

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